tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4946916641850178817.post4277634573828436777..comments2024-01-29T18:11:40.469-08:00Comments on The RPG Consoler: Game 2: Zelda II: The Adventure of Link (NES) - BeginningsZenic Reveriehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16441583549326102945noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4946916641850178817.post-17528303481695225082012-02-25T06:54:16.963-08:002012-02-25T06:54:16.963-08:00I wish there was a 'like' option or someth...I wish there was a 'like' option or something, haha. I want to express my agreement without making a post about it.killias2https://www.blogger.com/profile/00398131197947456691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4946916641850178817.post-63514298879277370312012-02-25T04:39:23.227-08:002012-02-25T04:39:23.227-08:00Error, 100% agree with you that Zelda 2 is the exc...Error, 100% agree with you that Zelda 2 is the exception, and that the other Zelda gamesdon't even come close.Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4946916641850178817.post-30650444749496255722012-02-25T04:38:29.155-08:002012-02-25T04:38:29.155-08:00100% agree with you that Zelda is the exception.100% agree with you that Zelda is the exception.Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4946916641850178817.post-71577587345515743992012-02-24T09:15:36.134-08:002012-02-24T09:15:36.134-08:00Err "then" be done with this topic. I&#...Err "then" be done with this topic. I'm sure there are other typos I haven't caught, but that shot a chill up my spine as soon as I saw it.killias2https://www.blogger.com/profile/00398131197947456691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4946916641850178817.post-9916477371823879742012-02-24T09:14:59.021-08:002012-02-24T09:14:59.021-08:00I'll elaborate a bit more than be done with th...I'll elaborate a bit more than be done with this topic.<br /><br />I think it's perfectly acceptable to skip the vast majority of the Zelda games from this list. Most of the series, while having RPG elements, simply aren't RPG's. They draw from different source materials, and they are genetically distinct. To put it another way, most Zelda games evolve RPG elements -separately- from the RPG genre itself. It's convergent evolution in action.<br /><br />However, that said, I think Zelda 2 is different. Zelda 2 is a major departure for the series.. largely because of elements taken from RPGs. Towns are added, but, unlike later Zelda games, they are added in a very console RPG way. You enter towns the same way you enter towns in console RPGs of the period.. which is completely different than every other game in the series. Ditto with experience levels, magic, magic spells, the overworld map, etc. Even when later games in the series had similar elements, these similar elements were either completely reinvented (i.e. - sharing no heritage with Zelda 2) or were more based on Zelda 1 than Zelda 2. For example, the "towns" in Zelda 3 and beyond are more like the hovels in Zelda 1 than the towns of Zelda 2 and RPGs. Progression in Zelda 3 and beyond is more like the heart container stuff in Zelda 1 than the exp. stuff in Zelda 2. Magic in later games is more based on Zelda 1's inventory system than Zelda 2's RPG system. Etc. etc.<br /><br />Zelda 2 is an anomaly. It is a hybrid of classic RPGs and the Zelda series' unique memetic heritage. As such, I think it belongs on an RPG blog, while the sequels, for the most part, do not.killias2https://www.blogger.com/profile/00398131197947456691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4946916641850178817.post-29707523700645375012012-02-24T08:53:30.638-08:002012-02-24T08:53:30.638-08:00I talked about this on the last post, but I'll...I talked about this on the last post, but I'll say more here: I think Zelda 2's inclusion on this list is correct. Let me ask any naysayers this: if Zelda 2 isn't an action RPG, what genre is it?<br /><br />It has towns, an overworld, random battles, experience levels, magic, MP, item progression, open exploration, an emphasis on story, a stereotypical RPG setting, etc. etc. etc. Sure, it doesn't have money. That seems like a big oversight. However, I can't sit here and say that this is a straight action game. It's not really a platformer. It's not a puzzle game. People used to like calling Zelda games "adventure" games, but that's just completely off. Action adventure seems less correct than action RPG. If this isn't an RPG, what is it?killias2https://www.blogger.com/profile/00398131197947456691noreply@blogger.com